Wed, 14 June 2017
On this episode, we’ll be talking about the PR nightmare that was the Spalding theory as it embodied a new resurgence in the public eye. Spalding’s wife, Matilda Davison, and Hingepin Sidney Rigdon went at it in a public letter exchange where she laid out the theory claiming the Book of Mormon came from her late husband’s fiction and Rigdon responds with ad hominem attacks and blatant lies. After that we follow up on the conversation with Charone Frankel from last week’s episode. Links: B.H. Roberts The Book of Mormon pt 3 Susan Black on Nauvoo population Full text of “Manuscript Story—Conneaut Creek Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Fri, 9 June 2017
On this episode, we look at a new release from Deseret News which claims that the church will produce a new comprehensive history. A 4-volume set released over 4 years covering more than 200 years from an historically verifiable, transparent, fictionalized account, written at a 10th grade reading level. This is their new commitment to answering controversial Mormon history; I’m not holding my breath. After that we talk to Charone Frankel of Habeas Humor Podcast to talk about her path through religiosity and how she came to host an atheist-law podcast. Be sure to give her show a listen, track down episode 11 to hear us talk about the FLDS. Links: Charone on Habeas Humor Subscribe to Habeas Humor on iTunes: https://itun.es/us/sms5hb.c Deseret News “Church History” article Richard Bushman “Church has to change narrative” Show Links: Please take a quick 30-second survey to help out the show!!! Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 1 June 2017
On this episode, we shift focus from Quincy to Liberty Jail and back as we follow Bloody Brigham Young stepping into the vacuum of leadership, making a power play in Jo’s absence. Jo agrees to buy the land deal proposed by Isaac Galland sight unseen after he screeds to him about Mormon doctrine. Then Jo and friends are charged again in a Grand Jury with everything they’d already been charged, then proceed to escape during a transfer to Boone County. Everybody plays their part in the building up of Zion in their clean slate state, Illinois.
Links: Please take a quick 30-second survey to help out the show!!! Letter to Isaac Galland Letter to Judge George Thompkins Letter to Emma Smith AOA Beyond the Trailer Park podcast Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Fri, 26 May 2017
On this episode, we air an interview conducted at Boston University’s theological department during the Mormon history tour. We get to hear from Professor Emeritus Carl A.P. Ruck of classical history. Ruck has been publishing in the field for 3 decades and sits as one of the foremost historians who has extensively researched certain religious rituals and their use of entheogens. He gives his opinion on whether it’s feasible for Joseph Smith to have used them in the early days of Mormonism. After the conversation, we dive into a discussion about what attendees can expect during this year’s Sunstone Symposium presentation on July 29th, “Revelation Through Hallucination”. Marie Kent, host of My Book of Mormon podcast, will be in SLC for Sunstone as well; we’ll be doing a live show from Squatter’s pub. Check both Facebook pages for more info! Links: Carl A.P. Ruck Boston University Some of Ruck’s presentations Psilly Rabbits Podcast Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 18 May 2017
On this episode, we view the Mormon exodus from Missouri to Illinois through the eyes of those locked up in Liberty Jail. Jo and Hyrum try to run the church from their dungeon, while Rigdon is trying to reestablish the Mormon kingdom which was lost. Jo has letter correspondence with his wife and Presendia Huntington Buell at the same time. We finish, as usual, with random musings about Hingepin Rigdon and his belief in a God that would dare to cause him such personal suffering.
Links: LDS article on Liberty Jail Letter to the Chuch in Caldwell County 16 Dec 1838 Letter to Brigham Young and Heber Kimball 16 Jan 1839 Memorial to Missouri Legislature 24 Jan 1839 Letter from Edward (Party-boy) Partridge 5 March 1839 Letter from Don Carlos and William Smith 6 March 1839 Letter from Emma Smith 7 March 1839 Letter to Emma Smith 21 March 1839 Letter to Presendia Huntington Buell 15 March 1839 Isaac Galland—Mormon Benefactor Journal of Discourses 23:12 John Taylor on Sidney Rigdon Pulpit Podcast – Naked Mormonism and Gilgal Gardens
Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 11 May 2017
On this episode, we have a conversation with one of my personal Mormon history idols, Shawn McCraney, host of the TV show “Heart of the Matter”. Shawn grew up in the church, but thanks to a roadside spiritual experience, he now hosts a TV show centered around a deconstruction of Mormonism and a construction of Christianity. We talk Mormonism for a bit then we get on to why he believes what he believes, and just how hard he believes it. Be sure to catch the two of us on his show episode 544 linked below.
Links: Shawn McCraney and Heart of the Matter (544)
Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 4 May 2017
On this episode, we discuss just how terrible the winter of 1838-1839 was for the Mormons, especially for the incarcerated leadership. The Saints were forcefully removed from Missouri and landed in temporary refugee camps along the Mississippi, settling a little town called Quincy, IL. Jo, Hyrum, Rigdon, McRae, Baldwin, and Wight are all wasting away in Liberty Jail until Doniphan gets cert for an habeus corpus hearing. Rigdon pulls out the ol’ preacher moves and sways the congregation to release him; even in his fractured mental state, he’s still got it. We end the episode with a brief wrap up of the Mormon history tour as well as ReasonCon. Links: LDS History article “Within the Walls of Liberty Jail” Patience Delila Pierce Palmer personal history Jeffrey Holland – Lessons from Liberty Jail Chris Nemelka (Marvelous Work and a Wonder) Shawn McCraney (Heart of the Matter) Show links:
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Tue, 18 April 2017
Most of the past week and a half has been driving, but I've been in Northern Utah for 4 days now and had to post up another log recounting everything so far. Utah is full of such cool Mormon history and many museums related to the entire pioneer era. Another small addition, Christopher Nemelka is an interesting guy to have a conversation with. He was nice enough to set up an interview at his studio on his Marvelous Work and Wonder monthly video broadcast. It's posted up on the Naked Mormonism Facebook page, all 2.5 hours of it, try to watch without spontaneous aneurysm...
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Sat, 8 April 2017
Most of today was driving, however the morning was spent in Palmyra and Fayette at the Smith farm, Sacred Grove, and Whitmer farm. The church has put out some really slick videos trying to explain the history, but somehow they still obfuscate the reality. Now on to a fun evening with friend of the show Jonathan Tindell of Secular Stories podcast!
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Sat, 8 April 2017
Most of today was driving, however the morning was spent in Palmyra and Fayette at the Smith farm, Sacred Grove, and Whitmer farm. The church has put out some really slick videos trying to explain the history, but somehow they still obfuscate the reality. Now on to a fun evening with friend of the show Jonathan Tindell of Secular Stories podcast!
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Sat, 8 April 2017
Most of today was spent looking through microfilms of Luman Walter's probate file. He must have been somewhat wealthy because the surrogates who handled his possessions afterwards did a fantastic job of cataloging all of his personal inventory. The rest of the day was spent at the Hill Cumorah visitor center talking with a delightful elder missionary.
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Sat, 8 April 2017
Isaac Hale didn't like Jo when him and Emma began courting. Luckily for Jo, Hale's heart softened and allowed Jo to move in to the farm once "persecution" in New York became too much to bear. We cover two days in this travel log because the majority of them were spent driving. The rest of the log includes my musing on an interview I conducted with a professor at Boston University about Joseph Smith's possible entheogen use.
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Sun, 2 April 2017
Kirtland Day 3 landed me at the Sidney Rigdon church in Mentor, Ohio; finishing the day with a conversation with Seth Bryant and Tom Kimball of the Church of Christ. Not quite as eventful as the last few days, but still very productive.
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Sun, 2 April 2017
Kirtland Day 2 involved touring the CoC owned Kirtland Temple as well as the Isaac Morley farm. The day ended with my recounting of a deep Mormon history discussion with Karl Anderson, known locally as Mr. Kirtland. He didn't like the entheogen theory, but the exchange was incredibly respectful and I'm happy to call him a friend.
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Sat, 1 April 2017
It's a good thing this tour is spending 3 full days in Kirtland! I began with a tour of historic Kirtland at the Whitney store and home, ending at the sawmill and ashery. After that it was on to the temple to make an appointment for the basement to belfry tour. Then on to Hiram, OH wherein lies the John and Elsa Johnson farm. The rainy day made it so nobody else was on these tours so I took full opportunity to engage with all the missionaries and hear a number of touching personal stories.
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Thu, 30 March 2017
Missouri is jam-packed full of really cool Mormon historic sites. It's also home to a number of break-off factions which differ in some small ways from the Brighamite sect in SLC. There are some profound differences between the visitor centers of the Community of Christ, the Temple Lot (Hedrickites), and the Brighamite LDS centers; some discuss Mormon history a little more openly than others.
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Mon, 27 March 2017
Mostly a driving day, but I had to stop at Carthage Jail on the way to Missouri. Nothing in the world fires me up like revisionist history and Carthage Jail reeks of it. Luckily, if you know the right questions to ask, the missionaries there have to answer truthfully, despite the believing Mormons sighing in the background at the pursuit for truth.
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Mon, 27 March 2017
Nauvoo is jam-packed with really cool Mormon history. It was simply a mistake to think I could see everything pertinent in one day.
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Sat, 25 March 2017
No Mormon history hotspots in South Dakota or Minnesota, but I did see the surprisingly underwhelming Mt. Rushmore and my inner Gearhead took complete control before passing a car museum.
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Sat, 25 March 2017
Martin's Cove was something that cropped up on my radar mere days before passing it by. The Martin handcart company was forced to camp for 5 days in a small horseshoe cove that offered a brief respite from the brutal southern Wyoming blizzards which would forced them to wait out the storm. The missionaries called it hallowed ground, I call it a gigantic fuck up that cost a lot of people everything they had, including their lives.
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Sat, 25 March 2017
St. George Utah is home to many Mormon history sites including the first temple completed and dedicated under Brigham Young's rule, BY's winter home, and the home of Jacob Hamblin.
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Fri, 17 March 2017
On this episode, we finally reach the November court of inquiry following the Mormon-Missouri war of 1838. Typically, court hearings are held to pass fair judgement, but the Mormons find no justice or peace. The episode begins with an exciting announcement about a cross-country Mormon history pilgrimage. Updates found on this episode and you can follow along on the show’s Patreon feed. Links: Missouri State Archives Mormon war papers 1838-1841 Reed Peck Manuscript Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Fri, 10 March 2017
On this episode, we attempt to get to the bottom of all these Mormon document leaks as of late. We have a discussion with Ryan McKnight, /u/FearlessFixxer and founder of MormonLeaks, covering some of the recent leaks released by the leak project. We conclude our discussion with whether or not we can trust sources leaked anonymously from a source that claims to “have a vetting process”. Ryan stands by every document released; it may be best to skepticize them for the time being. Links: Mormon Leaks Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 2 March 2017
On this episode, shock and awe is an effective strategy. In the wake of the Haun’s Mill massacre, the Jo and the Mormon leadership are given a final ultimatum, surrender or the twin cities (Far West & Adam-ondi-Ahman) fall and the Mormons fall with them. General Lucas of the Missouri militia dictates four stipulations of surrender as the Mormons are outnumbered 5 to 1 and surrounded. Mormon Colonel George Hinkle negotiates an extension for the night but Jo and the leaders are taken as hostage to force compliance to surrender. The twin sanctuary cities are violated and the national media explodes with rumors and fake news.
Links: Parley P. Pratt (P-cubed) autobiography Reed Peck Manuscript http://www.mormoninformation.com/reedpeck.htm Local Missouri newspapers http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/MO/Miss1838.htm#110338 General Sampson Avard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampson_Avard Thomas B. Marsh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_B._Marsh#cite_note-Doc57-6 Danites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danite 1838 Mormon War in Missouri Stephen LeSueur https://www.amazon.com/1838-Mormon-War-Missouri/dp/0826207294 The Rise of Mormonism: 1816-1844 H. Michael Marquardt
Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 23 February 2017
On this episode, we take a look at what political overreach by religious organizations looks like at the incremental level. All the research for this episode spawned from the featured Deseret News article about the LDS Church filing an amicus brief in the Supreme Court case concerning transgender bathroom rights. We talk with Callie Wright of the Gaytheist Manifesto to get an idea for just how prevalent this issue is. After that we have a discussion with Andrew Seidel, attorney at Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) to discuss the real-world ramifications of this legal defense against redefinition of Title IX classifications. We end the episode with a petition for the church to take some outside consultants to stop the hemorrhaging of their membership or they will inevitably dwindle into obscurity; one wonders if they prefer the latter to save their pride. Links: Deseret News transgender bathroom article ACLU Article on Gloucester County School Board V. Grimm Title IX Education Amendments (20 U.S.C. Sec. 1681) Major Religious Organizations Amici Curiae Brief (Filed by Kirton McConkie) World gender culture map SCOTUSblog coverage
Callie and the Gaytheist Manifesto
Andrew L. Seidel and FFRF
Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 16 February 2017
On this episode, we finally dive into something highly anticipated for years, the Haun’s Mill Massacre. The title says it all; we discuss very adult concepts with graphic detail (listener discretion advised). We read 5 first-hand accounts of the massacre and bring it all together with Stephen LeSueur’s reconstruction of events. We finish out with a list of factors that lead to this fateful day in American history.
Links: Amanda Barnes Smith Lyman Omer Littlefield Autobiography James McBride 1876 microform Ellis Eames Mrs. Lucy Walker (Smith) Kimball: Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 9 February 2017
On this episode, we invite Christopher Smith on for a follow-up of our last conversation. In order to be historically accurate, it’s important to take every possible opportunity to learn from historians and scholars. We discuss the proper terminology to use when analyzing Mormon colonization of Utah by getting into the nitty gritty of what constitutes battle and conquest as opposed to genocide. In retrospect, genocide does seem like an overly- sensationalized description of these fairly standard settler vs. Native conflicts throughout frontier America.
Links: Captain Fearnought’s white wool mountain-man coat Chris Smith South Park video Chris Smith with Dan Vogel on ThoughtsOnThingsAndStuff Worlds Without End blog
Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Fri, 3 February 2017
On this episode, we cover a lot of ground but only advance our timeline a total of 4 days. Mormon depredations throughout Daviess County are answered by vigilante militia depredations against Mormons. The anti-Mormons are routing the Mormons to concentrate their population in the twin sanctuary cities, Diahman and Far West in preparation of a mass siege to put down the Mormon fanatics once and for all. Captain Samuel Bogart’s troops take two Mormon spies prisoner and Captain Fearnought assaults their camp on Crooked River with the Danites. Once Governor Lilburn Boggs catches word of the Danite aggression, he answers with a 4,000-man militia armed with an Executive Order to exterminate the Mormons. We bring on Andrew Torrez of Opening Arguments podcast to shed some expert light on the situation.
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Links: Colonel Cornelius Neil Gilliam Captain Samuel Bogart General John Bullock Clark General Atchison to Boggs 22-10-1838 Recollections by Peter H. Burnett Ebenezer Robinson Autobiography
Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 26 January 2017
On this episode, we take an opportunity to talk with budding Mormon historian, Christopher Smith, who just landed his professorship at U of U! We talk about the current timeline and some of the broader social tensions plaguing Jo and the church in 1838. After that we move on to talk about Dr. Smith’s dissertation concerning the Mormon colonization of Utah and just how bloody it really was. Apparently Bloody Brigham was a bit apprehensive to slaughter thousands of Natives but somehow was convinced otherwise. Chris Smith South Park video Chris Smith with Dan Vogel on ThoughtsOnThingsAndStuff Worlds Without End blog Richard Bushman “…problems with dominant narrative” video Thinker of Thoughts YouTube Channel Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 19 January 2017
On this episode, we begin with a wrap up of the live God Awful Movies in Chicago and talking about everything the atheist/skeptical community has to offer. After that we jump into a discussion about the Mormon refugee crisis going on in mid-October 1838 in Missouri. Jo had to feed the flock and the only way to do so was through raiding and pillaging the Daviess County locals. We read a warm letter exchange between people on opposing sides of the conflict along with a large excerpt from Benjamin Johnson, the first-hand recounting from a Mormon raiding party participant. After that we move on to part 2 of a discussion with Brian and Sean of Mythicist Milwaukee; be sure to check their podcast feed for part 1!
Links: Mythicist Milwaukee interview pt1 General Parks’ letter to James Sloan Benjamin F. Johnson My Life’s Review Reddit post w/ dove and walking on water stories Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 12 January 2017
On this episode, we jump into a conversation with awesome Science Communicator, Cara Santa Maria. We talk about her path through Mormonism and how long it took her to call bullshit. After that we discuss just what it is that a science communicator does and I ask her the two questions. If you’re a subscriber on Patreon.com/nakedmormonism be sure to listen to the subscriber episode for the full uncut conversation. After the interview, we make some corrections and dive into listener mail and current Mormon headlines. Cara Santa Maria Links: http://carasantamaria.com/ Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 5 January 2017
On this episode, the duration of our discussion lands us in September and early October of 1838. We start with brief introductions to Generals Alexander Doniphan and David Atchison; two non-Mormon allies the Mormons desperately needed when it seemed everybody in Missouri wanted them dead or gone. Jo and Lyman Wight retained these generals for legal counsel prior to a ceremonial preliminary trial held to charge Jo and Wight with mob violence. Rumors were also circulating that the Mormons were trying to ally themselves with the Native Americans to attempt an overthrow of the Missourian Government. Rumors don’t need to be founded in reality to scare the shit out of the public. Diahmen comes under siege from Dr. W. W. Austin’s troops after the Mormons steal a convoy of arms and take three prisoners. After a buy-out of the non-Mormons in Daviess County is negotiated, these anti-Mormon vigilantes lay siege on DeWitt and force its surrender nearly 2 weeks later. Mormons are chased out of their homes with many dying from exposure and illness. Jo had to do something to keep his people from starving…
Links: 1830 1st edition BoM title page Asahel Lathrop affidavit My Book of Mormon D&C war section BBC The Life of Muhammad Aversions Crown Alien Metal video Podunk Polymath guest spot
Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 29 December 2016
On this episode, we jump in to part 2 of the Cody Noconi discussion about entheogens. Part 1 established a brief world history of hallucinogen use throughout the 10,000 years we can speculate upon; part 2 focuses on just Joseph Smith and Mormon history, essentially compiling the theory that Jo used hallucinogens for himself and possibly drugged his parishioners to incite spiritual experiences. It may be controversial. It may strain credulity and raise red flags of skepticism. One may call bullshit at the very onset of the discussion, but this is a viable theory that needs to be discussed openly in the public square of Mormon history. If Jo’s use of entheogens helps to explain any aspect of his religion it needs to be a topic of open discourse. If any listeners have competing theories that provide more explanatory power than this, please get in touch with Cody or Bryce and we’ll further this conversation. Links: Luman Walters Ethan Allen Hitchcock Cody Noconi contact information: psilly.rabbits@gmail.com Vogel, Dan. “The Locations of Joseph Smith's Early Treasure Quests.” In Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, p197-231.
Heinrich, Clark. “Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy.” Park Street Press, 2002.
Ott, Johnathon. “Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic drugs, their plant souces and history.” Kennewick, Washingtom: Natural Products Co, Second Edition Densified, 1996. McKenna, Terrance. “Food of The Gods: The Search for the Original Tree of Knowledge.” Bantam; Reprint edition, January 1, 1993. Quinn, Michael. “Early Mormonism and the Magic World View.” Signature Books; 2nd Edition, December 1998.
Rush, John. “The Mushroom in Christian Art: The Identity of Jesus in the Development of Christianity.” North Atlantic Books, 2011
Richard Schultes, Christian Ratsch, Albert Hoffman. “Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers.” Healing Arts Press; 2nd edition, 2001.
Tanner, Jerald and Sandra. “Joseph Smith and Money Digging.” Salt Lake City Tribune, Issue no.
October 1970. 2. Beckstead, Robert T. “Restoration and the Sacred Mushroom.” Presented at Sunstone Symposium August, 2007.
Tanner, Jerald and Sandra. “Mormonism and Magic.” Salt Lake City Tribune, Issue no. 49. December 1982
Fair Mormon Responses - http://en.fairmormon.org/Joseph_Smith/Occultism_and_magic ; 19. Show Links:
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Thu, 22 December 2016
On this episode, we invite on amateur Mycologist Cody Noconi to discuss the history of entheogen use in the human race. Much of the information has been well substantiated by multiple historians and Cody has merely compiled it and brought it to the listening audience. We cover human history from the Fertile Crescent all the way to the enlightenment period, maybe we’ve been stoners for longer than historians think. Once we get into Hermeticism and Alchemy, the connections to entheogen use starts to become very powerful, to the point we can’t ignore its influence. Please take this as a jumping off point to engage in researching this topic for yourself.
Cody’s Sources: Pictures on NMPC website Joseph Smith and Kabbalah: The Occult Connection by Lance S. Owens Robert Gordon Wasson, Stella Kramrisch, Jonathan Ott, Carl A. P. Ruck. “Persephone's Quest: Entheogens and the Origins of Religion.” Yale University Press, 1986. 3. Barret, Francis. “The Magus, or Celestial Intelligencer.” London, 1801.
Doblin, Rick. “Pahnke’s ‘Good Friday Experiment’ A Long Term Follow Up and Methodological Critique.” In The Journal of Transpersonal Psychology, Vol. 2. Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1991. 7.
Heinrich, Clark. “Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy.” Park Street Press, 2002. Siegel, Ronald K. “Intoxication: The Universal Drive for Mind-Altering Substances.” Park Street Press, 2005. Ott, Johnathon. “Pharmacotheon: Entheogenic drugs, their plant sources and history.” Kennewick, Washington: Natural Products Co, Second Edition Densified, 1996.
Scot, Reginald. “The Discoverie of Witchcraft.” England, 1584.
Ruck, Carl. “The Effluents of Deity: Alchemy and Psychoactive Sacraments in Medieval and Renaissance Art.” Carolina Academic Press, 2012
McKenna, Terrance. “Food Of The Gods: The Search for the Original Tree of Knowledge.” Bantam; Reprint edition, January 1, 1993.
Stamets, Paul. “Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms.” Ten Speed Press; 3 edition October 25, 2000.
Rush, John. “The Mushroom in Christian Art: The Identity of Jesus in the Development of Christianity.” North Atlantic Books, 2011
Richard Schultes, Christian Ratsch, Albert Hoffman. “Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers.” Healing Arts Press; 2nd edition, 2001.
Crowley, Mike. "Oriental Jones and the Medal of Freedom." Invisible College, First Edition, p24-26.
Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies - www.maps.org
Information on Psilocybin Therapy for cancer patients - http://www.maps.org/other-psychedelic-research/211-psilocybin-research/psilocybin-studies-in-progress/1268-johns_hopkins_study_of_psilocybin_in_cancer_patients
Show Links: Scathing Atheist Episode 201 https://audioboom.com/posts/5423399-scathingatheist-201-lump-of-coal-edition
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Thu, 15 December 2016
On this episode, we finally jump into the Gallatin election day battle and the aftermath. Two diametrically opposed mobs matched each other’s ante as things continually escalate out of control. Jo and Rigdon take the Danites to Diahmen to impose their will upon elected officials. Lilburn Boggs organizes a militia to answer the Mormon aggression of 150 stripling warriors cascading across county lines in violation of Missouri law. Nobody holds the legal or ethical high ground as violent rhetoric is matched by violent action on both sides of the Mormon-Missouri conflict. Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Links: Reed Peck manuscript
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Thu, 8 December 2016
On this episode, we take the opportunity to have a conversation with an armchair Mormon historian known as the host of Year of Polygamy and Color of Heaven podcasts, Lindsay Park. Lindsay has made a livelihood from communicating Mormon history, and strives daily to actively open roads of discussion between believers and ex-Mo’s which typically remain less travelled. She now works as assistant director of the Sunstone Foundation to bring Symposiums to the world. We talk about her work and the ways she’s been successful in communicating Mormon history to her believing loved ones. From there we go on to discuss the history of polygamy and how it affected the Church since 1831. Was Joseph’s polygamy all a fabrication by Bloody Brigham Young?
Links: Year of Polygamy Podcast Color of Heaven Podcast Connell O’Donovan – Joseph T. Ball and William Smith Boston Polygamy The Fern Foundation - Colorado City Service Project Sunstone Symposium!!! Lindsay Park’s FB page
Listener Mail Links: Morris Phelps Jailbreak stories Gazelem’s music links (Watch at your risk…) Desdemona Fuller Smith on Joseph Smith’s white suit
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Fri, 2 December 2016
On this episode, Jo and Rigdon come riding into Far West and decide to throw over the whole game board that’d been strategically placed by powers much larger than them over the past 5 years. First thing on the chopping block, the heads of all dissenters. D-Day David Whitmer’s nickname finally comes into play as he’s chased out of Far West along with Ollie Cowdung, John Goebbels Whitmer, Leadfoot Lyman Johnson and Double-Dub Phelps. A grand cleansing purges all who dare question the authority of the Prophet and his advisors. Hingepin Rigdon issues public death threats to those defectors and to all who oppose the Saints in Missouri; “It will be…. a war of extermination!” from the mouth of Jo’s spokesman. We read the entire July 4th Oration which was responsible for so much violence in Missouri in late 1838; Patreon subscribers get access to 50 extra minutes of reading the whole speech instead of just the crescendo.
Links: Rigdon’s 4th of July Oration: Ebenezer Robinson Autobiography:
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Fri, 25 November 2016
On this episode, we invite an actual Mormon historian to offer context and perspective on the timeline. John Hamer grew up in the church but eventually came to join the Community of Christ. He’s been studying Mormon history for decades, abundantly evident when listening to any podcast he’s featured on, and we simply can’t ask him enough questions. We cover in detail the transition time from Kirtland to Far West in 1837-38 as well as the social pressures existing between the Mormons and the Missourians. We end with a big discussion of the schism crisis after Jo’s death with some of the largest break-off sects (Strangite, Cutlerite, Rigdonite, Parrishite, etc.), then finish with the reorganization that gave the RLDS church its name. We restrained ourselves to 2 hours of talking for everybody’s sake, but there are no promises we’ll keep to the same restriction next time John’s on the show!
John Hamer Links: Infants on Thrones Community of Christ Toronto By Common Consent Facebook Sidney Rigdon – Forgotten Hero of Mormonism Show Links:
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Wed, 23 November 2016
This is the video presentation delivered by Bryce Blankenagel at the Seattle Sunstone Symposium 11/19/2016 on the life of Sidney Rigdon and his influence on Mormon history.
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Fri, 11 November 2016
On this episode, we take the opportunity to talk with a couple guys who also attended Sunstone Symposium. Joey and Andrew of the Pulpit Podcast definitely have a backlog full of conjecture and conspiracy theory, even claiming that Brigham Young killed Jo and the Illuminati may have been behind it. Regardless of where they get their information, they are a blast to converse with and a pleasure to listen to. Follow the links to listen to their podcast and be sure to check their episode list this upcoming Sunday (11/13/2016) for our discussion about Bloody Brigham Young!
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Fri, 4 November 2016
On this episode, our scope lands from mid-January to mid-March, focusing on three separate but equal locations. Kirtland, Ohio was the center of dissent and violent mob action against Jo and his loyalists. Along with a few other families, Jo and Rigdon were forced to flee Kirtland, leaving the main church building on fire in their wake and arriving in Far West, Missouri as a temporary safe haven. Things weren’t well in Far West either. The trusted church leaders held a tribunal and excommunicated or put on hold the Whitmers, Oliver Cowdery, and W. W. Phelps until Jo and Rigdon get into town. The saints are faced with some hard decisions in the coming year. Do they stay in Kirtland and follow a breakoff faction; or follow the one true prophet, Joseph Smith, to Missouri, where saints are frequently shot or chased from their homes? We wrap up the discussion with a topical subject currently rising in relevancy out of Nevada. The Church of the Devil may share a bit more in common with Mormonism than we initially perceived… Show Links: Links: Manuscript History of Brigham Young Autobiography of Benjamin F. Johnson Joseph Smith Papers Kirtland Schoolhouse
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Tue, 1 November 2016
On this episode, all barriers between personal and podcast are thrown away as I share random musings upon my recently deceased Grandmother and the true meaning of “Family”. Norma’s Obituary: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/deseretnews/obituary.aspx?pid=182061749 Show Links:
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Thu, 20 October 2016
On this episode, we finally have a conversation with Jeremy Runnells, author of the “Letter to a CES Director.” In 2013, Jeremy made waves in Mormon communities when he released his open letter to a CES director. After refutation and refutation of the refutation, the church decided that Jeremy was too cancerous to keep as a member and held a tribunal to excommunicate him, but Jeremy beat them to it. During the video of the excommunication, Jeremy says he’s excommunicating the church from his life and that this is a kangaroo court, truer words never spoken. Jeremy has been the tip of the spear piercing the fragile ribcage of Mormon apologetics for the past 3 years, we owe him a massive debt of gratitude. Show Links: Links:
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Fri, 14 October 2016
On this episode, we pick up the historical timeline to finish out 1837 and glimpse into 1838. Dissent and defection have never attained levels elevated beyond what we’re seeing in the timeline now. The Parrishites, Brewsterites, the Church of Christ under Coe/Smalling/Harris, and a small number of other breakoff factions hit the open religious market in response to public dissatisfaction with Jo and his church. Jo, Rigdon and friends make their way from Kirtland to Missouri and back, only to be permanently chased out of Kirtland and relocate to Missouri during the harsh winter months. This episode is a two-parter and includes an interview with Marie Kent, host of the My Book of Mormon Podcast, talking about our show and the D&C in general, all while giving us a glimpse into her life and study of Mormonism. Kickstarter Campaign!!! Show Links: Links: Manuscript History of Brigham Young Joel’s D&C comparison My Book of Mormon podcast
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Fri, 7 October 2016
On this episode, we check in on a recent talk by M. Russell Ballard given Sept. 11, 2016. He says that not every member has to be a historian or scholar but viewing Mormon history with podcasts and internets are a bad! We also discuss leaks breaking church headlines. A series of videos were recently released that show internal meetings with church leaders, one of which discusses the appallingly low retention rate of millennials in the church. We also bring on Dan Wees, of the Book of Mormon Comparative and collaborator of the RealBookofMormon.org Kickstarter campaign, to talk about the finer points of the website and his personal contributions.
Kickstarter Campaign!!! Links: To the Saints of the Utah Salt Lake Area M Russell Ballard
MyPlan LDS.org program description
Dan Wees Book of Mormon Comparative
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Fri, 30 September 2016
On this episode, our historical timeline awaits and there is a lot to cover. We spend the majority of the episode talking about a court trial where Jo was being tried for conspiracy of assassination. A man named Grandison Newell, a vicious anti-Mormon, filed a complaint that Jo commanded two men to kill Newell in his home, a command issued by the will of God. Once a religious leader orders a homicide, that religious leader steps into the same realm as any two-bit mob boss, I’ll let you decide if Jo took that step or not. The rest of the episode is spent on Warren Parrish and the various church leaders that were apostatizing in Kirtland, Missouri, and really anywhere there was a Mormonite church.
Links: Autobiography of P. P. Pratt Grandison Newell – Sidney Rigdon open letter exchange Eliza R. Snow about the apostates
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Fri, 23 September 2016
On this episode, I invite two guests on the show to talk about a project we’ve been working on for quite some time. The RealBookofMormon.org is officially online and ready to go and it needs some funding. We’ve launched a Kickstarter campaign to get this project off the ground, but we have some grand plans in the making to transform this website to be the best possible resource of Mormon history it can possibly be. Be sure to watch the video version on the Naked Mormonism YouTube page and be sure to check out the Kickstarter campaign.
Links: Kickstarter Campaign Video Version of Podcast Episode
Show Links:
Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Outro music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Voicemail Line (864)Nake-dMo (625-3366)
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Fri, 16 September 2016
On this episode, we finally reach the conclusion of our 3-part deconstruction of Mark Hofmann. From young missionary to old man in prison, this has been one wild ride with Mark from his birth in 1954, through his days forging documents throughout his 20’s and finally ending at his plea bargain at the age of 32. This episode even features a surprise interview from an unexpected guest with a funny voice.
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Thu, 8 September 2016
On this episode, we begin with the Panic of 1837 and how it affected Mormon history. The world economy was in the early stages of a deep depression that lasted for more than half a decade. Monetary strains really begin to take their toll on everybody with money from the Kirtland Safety Society company as rapid inflation drives up their total portfolio to nearly $4 million. The real infighting begins as conflicting complaints are filed, and P-cubed (Parley P. Pratt) preaches a sermon about the decline of the church and lies coming from the leadership. D-Day David Whitmer, John Goebbels Whitmer, along with Ollie Cowdung (Oliver Cowdery) and Not-So-Smarty-Martin Harris are all considered to be in transgression and need to be straightened out. Never has dissent and blasphemy run so rampant through the quiet streets of Kirtland, Ohio. We finish up with a detail I didn’t originally perceive concerning the 1836 treasure digging trip to Salem, Massachusetts as well as some speculation on the human behind the historical Joseph Smith.
Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Outro music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Voicemail Line (864)Nake-dMo (625-3366)
Links Wilford Woodruff Journal John Corrill’s Brief History of the Church Bloody Brigham Young Autobiograhpy
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Thu, 1 September 2016
On this episode, we take a moment to catch up on some current events in church. We start off with talking about a presentation given by Kim B. Clark about the Church Educational System (CES) and his future vision for the organization. After that we dive into a possibly legitimate contract that returned missionaries have to sign upon their return from the mission field. A TBM made the argument that it isn’t legitimate on the Facebook page, but it seems pretty real to me from all initial appearances. After that, we talk briefly about a post on the Zelph on the Shelf blog about the anti-porn movement undermining itself.
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Links Kim B. Clark The Lord’s Educational System for His Church
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Fri, 26 August 2016
On this episode, we take a fantastic opportunity to speak with Esther who grew up in a small Canadian polygamist town. She takes us on a realistic journey of what it’s like to grow up in a polygamist family with 5 mothers and 49 siblings. Esther then takes us through her arranged marriage with a local man and what it was like to settle in to a home with a hostile sister-wife. Against all odds she overcame multiple pregnancies while going through nursing school. These struggles only mark the beginning in a life-long journey through the reality of FLDS polygamy, be sure to listen in for the entire story.
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Fri, 19 August 2016
On this episode, we dive right back into a “clean cut” examination of the infamous Mark Hofmann. We cover from the end of 1983 up to the bombings in October of 1985. Even with nearly 3 hours of audio, there’s a lot being left out. Hopefully we’ll be able to wrap things up next week, but no promises…
Show Links:
Links: Tracking the White Salamander The Caravan Moves On Bruce R. McConkie Dean Jessee’s New Documents and Mormon Beginnings Oath of a Freeman article Time “Challenging Mormonism’s Roots Extract from The Mormon Murders by Naifeh, Smith Bombing articles: Hofmann audio tape Sunstone presentation
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Thu, 11 August 2016
On this episode, we take a break from the historical timeline to examine a person that has been shrouded in mystery since making his way onto the Mormon historical scene in 1978; Mark Hofmann. He’s a man responsible for manufacturing an unknowable number of forgeries and selling them to the Church and other private collectors. All of his actions eventually lead up to 3 bombs going off, killing two people and severely injuring Hofmann himself. This is part one and it gets us up to the Salamander Letter in 1984, a year and a half before bombs start going off. Second Anointing Joseph Smith III Blessing Gordon B. Hinckley Conference Talk September 9, 1984 Deseret News “Church” section Dallin Oaks CES Symposium defending Salamander letter Tracking the White Salamander with color coded source texts of Salamander Letter September 1, 1984 Deseret News article titled “Letter”
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Fri, 5 August 2016
On this episode, I tell everybody just how at home I felt at the Sunstone Symposium. Sunstone is a convention for Mormons and non-Mormons to gather together and talk about the hard issues, with presentations by authors, historians, podcasters, and directors of various foundations; some believers, others non-believers. I had the opportunity to totally geek out and interview some authors, historians, and podcasters that I revere and frequently cite as sources for my research. The audio quality isn’t great, but the content is superb. You’ll hear audio clips from Grant Palmer, D. Michael Quinn, H. Michael Marquardt, John Hammond, Lindsay Park, and John Dehlin. For links to their works check the bottom of the show notes.
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Interviewee links:
Grant Palmer – Insider’s View of Mormon Origins "My Ah-Ha Moments While Researching Mormon History" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= Michael Quinn – Wiki page with all his books Michael Marquardt – The Rise of Mormonism 1816-1844 Mormon Central
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John Hammond – Island Adventures
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Lindsay Hansen Park – Year of Polygamy Color of Heaven
John Dehlin – Mormon Stories Podcast Open Stories Foundation
Sunstone Symposium webpage
The Pulpit Podcast with Joey and Andrew Mama Dragons Mark with Lost Mormonism Jeremy Runnells CES Letter Rainbow Radio Presents with Dan Konw the Trut Ministries Podcast
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Fri, 29 July 2016
On this episode, we’ll start out with the Safety Society Company absorbing Oliver Cowdery & Co. printing press, expressing just how much power it really had. After that we’ll discuss 1830’s politics of the Whigs versus the Democrats and what that meant for the Mormons in Ohio and Missouri. Then to wrap the show up, we’ll spend the last half discussing dissent in the church and just how fractioned everything was getting by mid-1837, we may have even found the first possible coup attempt against Joe, but who really knows for sure. Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Ebenezer Robinson Autobiography Politics in Kirtland
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Thu, 21 July 2016
On this episode, we dive into a 2-hour discussion with Mike Norton of NewNameNoah. We talk about everything from his walk through Mormonism and his video documenting of Mormonism, all the way to stories of almost getting caught by Mormon police and his Temple Recommend trafficking hobby while answering questions from the /r/ExMormon subreddit. He mentions a lot of videos that are all linked below, so be sure to check out everything we talk about.
Behind the Veil 2 Mormon Temple Ceremony Washing and Anointing Ritual Mormon Temple Wedding Ceremony Brother of Gideon/Danite article https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQQAByHVqmp2DGkMk5SsOZw Twitter @NewNameNoah Atheists on Air Beyond the Trailer Park
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Fri, 15 July 2016
On this episode, we’ll be talking about dissent in Kirtland and Bloody Brigham coming to Joe’s rescue, after which we’ll lightly touch on John Cook Bennet to compare him to Brigham Young. After that, there’s a public dispute about the nature of God between Rigdon and Ollie and we can see who Joe sided with from a later quote. Finally, to close out the episode we dive head first into the huge topic of the Kirtland Safety Society “Anti-Bank-ing” Company, and I bring on a guest to help parse out the confusing language in the articles of agreement for the bank. We also touch on something that’s been all but stricken from the historical record, but marks the blueprints for the Danites.
Show links: Voicemail Line (864)Nake-dMo (625-3366)
Links: Wilford Woodruff autobiography: http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/WWoodruff.html Manuscript History of Brigham Young: http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/MSHBY.html November 1836 Messenger and Advocate: http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/7468 The Ohio Observer, “Mormonism” by Truman Coe: http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/Coe.html Painesville Telegraph, “Mormonism” by Anonymous: http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/oh/paintel5.htm Ebenezer Robinson autobiography: http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/ERobinson.html Book of John Whitmer (Brother of Gideon Society): http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/JWhitmer-history.html Phil Ferugson show: Wayward Atheists guest spot: http://www.spreaker.com/user/waywardatheists/invasion-of-naked-mormonism Sunstone Symposium:
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Fri, 8 July 2016
On this episode, we catch up on some long awaited listener mail and stories they’ve shared. Show links:
Links: Michelle’s “Exit Story” Blog: Mama Dragons NPR Story: (Thanks, Nathan for sharing!!!) God Awful Movies 43 – Johnny Lingo and Cipher in the Snow http://godawfulmovies.libsyn.com/gam043-cipher-in-the-snow-and-johnny-lingo
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Fri, 24 June 2016
On this episode, we take a dive into 1836 to catch everything up. Until this time, we’ve just covered the big ticket historical topics that occurred in 1836, so we need to get everything else caught up. We also introduce 2 new NaMo nicknames for people that have been poking around the timeline for a while now. We start off with a discussion about the Hebrew school the presidency organized to be taught by Joshua Seixas. After that, William Smith and Joe get in a fight, and Joe loses. Following the fight, Joe releases a statement clarifying the church’s position on slavery and abolitionism, needless to say, Joe does the PR friendly move, and punts down the middle. We finish up with a discussion about 1836 treasure hunting, and Joe getting swindled by a guy named Burgess, as well as a few minutes devoted to the shooting in Orlando.
LAS VEGAS MEETUP TUES 6/28 at 7 PM!!! https://www.facebook.com/events/140253143061702/ Show links:
Links: Orson Hyde Autobiography http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/OHyde.html Ebenezer Robinson autobiography http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/ERobinson.html Salem Trip Apologetics https://history.lds.org/article/doctrine-and-covenants-salem-treasure-erastus-snow?lang=eng https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/you-shall-have-my-word/treasures-witches-and-ancient-inhabitants-dc-111 https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/111.4?lang=eng Joe’s “Slavery” letter in Messenger and Advocate April, 1836 http://www.centerplace.org/history/ma/v2n07.htm Joe’s letter to Emma from Salem
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Fri, 17 June 2016
On this episode, Trent joins us to talk about a myriad of interesting topics. We start off with discussing his Mormon upbringing, and transition into his faith crisis and search for the truth. The talk moves from Buddhism and spirituality, to smashing through those with a healthy dose of skepticism. After that we dive into the story of James G. Bleak, Trent’s ancestor, and his time in the Martin Handcart Company. This discussion episode goes a bit longer than most, but it’s packed full of good information, so stick around for the whole talk.
Show links:
Links: God Awful Movies 43 – Cipher in the Snow, and Johnny Lingo movie reviews http://godawfulmovies.libsyn.com/gam043-cipher-in-the-snow-and-johnny-lingo Restoration and the Sacred Mushroom PDF Download available on http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com/episodes.html
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Fri, 10 June 2016
On this episode, we start off with a discussion about the history of Mormon temples. This launches us into a discussion about the resources necessary to build such a structure, as well as how they paid for by the church. After that we discuss 6 pages in the History of the Church that sound balls to the walls crazy, I wonder what was in that anointing oil. This leads us into a question about a bigger Mormon history issue, is there a naturalistic explanation for the miraculous angel and dead prophet sightings of the Kirtland Temple dedication ceremony? The episode concludes with a discussion about Ollie and Joe’s friendship, as well as the overarching problem with Mormon Temples. Show links:
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The Spirit of God – Mormon Tabernacle Choir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608cbv7Qe_A
LDS Last Days Missouri Temple plat http://www.ldslastdays.com/default.aspx?page=talk_newjerusalem.htm
LDS History article on Kirtland Temple dedication https://history.lds.org/article/historic-sites-ohio-kirtland-temple-kirtland?lang=eng
Mormonthink article on Kirtland Temple dedication http://www.mormonthink.com/glossary/kirtlandtemplededication.htm
Jeremy Runnells excommunication video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNNfujkWFZI
Monster on Sunday – atheist metal
Tristan’s project – Where Babies Come From
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Fri, 3 June 2016
On this episode, we take an opportunity to talk to Ed from the Ehtheist podcast, and PodHell Media. Ed was a convert that went on a mission, and had to go home early for health reasons. Of course, that didn’t stop the awkward stares upon his dishonorable discharge from the mission field. Join us in a discussion about Ed’s journey, we even a dabble into Mormon apologetics at the end!
Show links:
Links: Ed on PodHell Media http://podhell.com/shows/the-ehtheist-podcast/ REASON RALLY!!! http://reasonrally.org/
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Fri, 27 May 2016
On this episode, we jump back into the historical timeline! We start off with the wiles of a Michael H. Chandler, and how he made $2400 off Joe's fascination with ancient artifacts, then, the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants are voted in as scripture by every member of the church. After that, Big Daddy Cheese is given a living stipend and fees for giving patriarchal blessings, and we talk about another first vision account, only this one is taken from Joe's own diary. To finish out the episode, we read a couple of autobiographical accounts covering the end of 1835, and leading into 1836, the second of which takes us into talking about the first real sex-scandal we have good evidence for, the one between 18 year-old Fanny Alger, and 30 year-old Joseph Smith. We don't run short on crazy for this episode, so strap in and enjoy!
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Thu, 19 May 2016
On this episode, we bring on a special guest to talk about forgiveness. It may seem like a topic that doesn't have much of a place in the discussion about Mormonism, but prepare to be surprised. Cliff offers us a whole new perspective on regret and forgiveness that can lead to a much more mentally healthy perspective of religion and family relationships. You won't want to miss this discussion!
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Fri, 6 May 2016
On this episode, we take a clean cut look at one largely controversial topic in Mormon history. Until 1978, no person having any black lineage could hold the priesthood, which denied them access to the highest kingdom of celestial heaven. Any black person that made it to heaven before the priesthood ban was lifted, was merely elevated to level of eternal servant (slave) of the white and delightsome men that make their own planets in the highest level of celestial heaven. What could have caused such a monumental shift in Mormon doctrine about blacks not having the priesthood? Turns out, the story is much more complicated than it first appears.
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Thu, 28 April 2016
On this episode, Richie Steadman joins us for part 2 of our
discussion about his beliefs in the Mormon church and Joseph Smith.
Part 1 was a precursor to what we discuss on this episode, and this
time, he doesn't get let off quite so easily.
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Fri, 22 April 2016
On this episode, we have another featured TBM (True Believing Mormon) on the show to discuss his beliefs and walk through Mormonism. This is merely part 1 where we get to know a little about Richie and his experience in the church, whereas part 2, to be released next week, is when we really get into some hard issues with church doctrine. After our discussion, a 5 to 10-minute rant turns into an hour long rant about homophobia in Mormonism. This isn't a standard Mormon history episode, but bare with me as I'm quite busy with two moves, and 2700+ miles of driving during the time this episode comes out.
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Thu, 14 April 2016
On this episode, we cover the History of the Church recounting of Sylvester Smith v. Joseph Smith. A couple of month's long journey had riled up some unfriendly feelings between Sylvester and Joe, but luckily, Joe wasn't in the wrong for any situation, and everything was Sylvester's fault. After that we talk about organizing the quorum of the Twelve Apostles, and finish out with a discussion about the 1835 version of the First Vision account.
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Thu, 7 April 2016
On this episode, we bring on Chuck from the Irreligiosophy podcast to talk all about them crazy polygamists. Not only does Chuck know an unbelievable amount of FLDS history, but he was raised in an independent polygamist FLDS sect. Tune in to hear his story, after which we scratch the surface of the history of the FLDS church.
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Thu, 31 March 2016
On this episode, we conclude the march of Zion's camp to Missouri. No white Lamanite skeletons in this part of the trip, because Joe and friends get down to business. From running battle scenarios under General Lyman Wight, to dying like sheep with the rot, Zions camp deals with the worst of times all for a test of faith. Listen in for the unexciting, uneventful, anti-climax that brought the march of Zions camp to a close.
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Thu, 24 March 2016
On this episode, we invite on our first ever self-proclaimed true believing Mormon, Will. We talk about church history, Joseph Smith, and how a believing member of the church can continue to believe in spite of any evidence against the Book of Mormon or Joseph Smith.
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Thu, 17 March 2016
On this episode, David Michael of the My Book of Mormon Podcast joins us to talk about Zion's camp. Strap in for a two parter, because there is just too much to talk about and 7 hour episodes are too much work. How does a shepherd react when a wolf devours the flock? Joe decides to make a 1,000 mile march with a band of merry men for the purpose of "peaceful reinstatement" of the Missourian Mormons to their homes, following the battle for Zion that happened in November of 1833. What wiles and deeds are the Mormons up to on this military march? Listen and find out! (Spoiler alert: A great white Lamanite corpse is unearthed!!!)
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Thu, 10 March 2016
On this episode, we have a discussion with the mastermind behind epic poem "Mormonism and Me," Tanner Gilliland, or as some may know him Zelph on the Shelf! He gives us his timeline in the church, and offers his perspective of the Mormon church. The second half of the interview is spent deconstructing Tanner's amazing poem "Mormonism and Me," to really understand the inspiration behind such grammatical wizardry. Check out the YouTube video to really get a feeling for the emotions portrayed in the poem. Show Links: https://books.google.com/books?id=WltIAAAAYAAJ&dq=isaac%20laney%20dream&pg=PA416#v=onepage&q=isaac%20laney%20dream&f=false Mormonism Unveiled: Including the Remarkable Life and Confessions of the Late Mormon Bishop, John D. Lee; (written by Himself) and Complete Life of Brigham Young, Embracing a History of Mormonism from Its Inception Down to the Present Time, with an Exposition of the Secret History, Signs, Symbols and Crimes of the Mormon Church. Also the True History of the Horrible Butchery Known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre, page 80-81 gives an account of Isaac being shot and being hidden under the floor boards of a cabin. I found several others but they were almost identical to this account. https://books.google.com/books?id=sZ4-AAAAYAAJ&dq=isaac%20laney&pg=PA81#v=onepage&q=isaac%20laney&f=false The Mountain Meadows Massacre, page 17 He was nearly beaten to death by agents of the priesthood in Parawan because he sold onions to the Baker-Francher party of Mountain Meadows Massacre fame. https://books.google.com/books?id=BUoOAAAAIAAJ&dq=isaac%20laney&pg=PA17#v=onepage&q=isaac%20laney&f=true
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Fri, 4 March 2016
On this episode, we're joined by Noah Lugeons (Scathing Atheist, Skepticrat, God Awful Movies podcasts), to talk about Doctor Philastus Hurlbut, and the rise of the Spalding authorship theory for the Book of Mormon. It's a directed conversation, covering a specific timeline of Feb, 1833 – April, 1834, with a plethora of tangents and vitriole about religion and belief, as is customary with any show that Noah is on.
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Fri, 26 February 2016
On this episode, we take a step back to ask, what is Campbellism? Luckily Adam Gonnermn got in touch through twitter to make a correction about connections between Mormonism, and Campbellism, and we devote an entire episode to hashing out the details. Let's see what we can learn from Adam about strictly Campbellite beliefs, and see how possible it is that they made their way into the Book of Mormon. Spoiler alert, they do! Now its just a matter of asking how those beliefs got there in the first place. . .
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Fri, 19 February 2016
On this episode, we wrap up 1832 with an early dictation of Joe's history that was recounted to empower Joe's divinity claim above that of Rigdon's. It works, and 1833 transitions pretty smoothly with the formation of the School of the Prophets. Doctor Philastus Hurlbut enters the timeline and is excommunicated twice, and goes on a mad crusade to expose the Mormon church. The Word of Wisdom is introduced, and a battle ensues in Jackson County, Missouri.
Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
Joseph Smith translation bible http://www.centerplace.org/hs/iv/
John Goebbels Whitmer's history
Philo Dibble Dabble Autobiography
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Thu, 11 February 2016
On this episode, we take a break from the historical timeline to have a discussion with some fellow Ex-Mormons. Randy, Justin, and Tiffany all lend their voices to the ever-growing body of Ex-Mormon voices on the internet, and I personally thank them graciously for doing so. Hopefully, you will all enjoy the conversation as much as I enjoyed having it.
Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 4 February 2016
On this episode, we take the historical timeline closer to the end of 1832. Everybody is focused on getting the printing press up and running in Independence Missouri, and they don't even realize that a viper lurks in the grass. We're introduced to a few new people that get their very own nicknames, and the bloody viper even gets his own long-awaited introduction. From April 14th, 1832 on, Mormon history will be forever changed.
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Thu, 21 January 2016
On this episode, we take on the time period from the hot Missouri summer nights of 1831, all the way to the blooming beauty of an 1832 Ohio spring. We introduce a few new characters that get their very own NaMo nicknames, e.g. William Wines (Double-Dub) Phelps, John (Goebbels) Whitmer, and Philo (Dibble-Dabble). We even get introduced to our first contact with one of Joe's to-be plural wives, Marinda Nancy Johnson-Hyde-Smith-Smith-Hyde. Hingepin Rigdon and Joe team up to continue in their efforts to complete the "Inspired Translation" of the Bible, and get a whole bunch of kooky new revelations as a side order. The episode ends with the March 1832 beating/tarring/feathering, and a special little surprise from Rigdon.
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Thu, 14 January 2016
On this episode, we attempt to deconstruct the Book of Mormon, just to see what it really is, and where it really came from. Turns out we only scratch the surface. This is part 3 of the CC-Book of Mormon episode broken up into smaller pieces. This episode also has a new bumper tacked on to the end, after the closing song.
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Thu, 7 January 2016
On this episode, we attempt to deconstruct the Book of Mormon, just to see what it really is, and where it really came from. Turns out we only scratch the surface. This is part 2 of the CC-Book of Mormon episode broken up into 3 smaller episodes.
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Thu, 7 January 2016
On this episode, we have our first ever ExMo hangout. We talk with Ruth, Abigail, Martha, and Lucy about their experiences as females in the LDS Church. We also get to find out what exactly broke their shelf (what made them leave the church). Turns out, it's not so simple as exclusion from holding the priesthood. These women have a lot of problems with the Church, and they were kind enough to add their voices to the ever growing body of Ex-Mormon voices on the interwebs. Hell hath no fury like angry ExMo women!
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Thu, 31 December 2015
On this episode, we attempt to deconstruct the Book of Mormon, just to see what it really is, and where it really came from. Turns out we only scratch the surface. This is part 1 of the CC-Book of Mormon episode broken up into smaller pieces.
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Thu, 24 December 2015
On this episode, we have a very enlightening conversation with two historians about the war of 1812. Transoceanic civil wars, back-stabbings by warring Indian tribes, impressment of sailors, and reportedly invincible armies are some of the topics of discussion. A leader emerges that Joe could have spent hours fantasizing about. How does this war effect Joe, and did he use some of the 1812 circumstances in his own Book of Mormon? Listen and decide for yourself.
Links:
Flying Spaghetti Mormon Podcast guest spot Episode 9 - http://www.flyingspaghettimormon.com/
No Religion Required Podcast guest spot Episode 93 - http://noreligionrequired.com/
Herd Mentality Podcast guest spot Episode 96 - http://herdmentalitypodcast.com/episodes.php
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Fri, 11 December 2015
On this episode, we discuss what happened from March, to July 1831. Joe makes his own trek from Kirtland, OH, to Independence, MO. This was done in the wake of the missionary journey by Ollie, Cowdung (Oliver Cowdery), Dick (Zyba)n Peterson, Peter Whitmer, and P-cubed (Parley P. Pratt), along with Freddy Willey (Frederick G. Williams). Joe wasn't satisfied with their success, so he decided to take charge, and handle the proselyting campaign in Missouri for himself. Or, maybe he was just searching for some solace for the trauma that was happening in his own life. If only we could step into Joseph's mind for just a second. . .
Links:
Scathing Atheist
Mountain Meadows Massacre 146 - http://scathingatheist.com/2015/12/03/episode-146-shownotes/
147 - http://scathingatheist.com/2015/12/10/episode-147-show-notes/
Carthage Shootout 126 - http://scathingatheist.com/2015/07/16/episode-126-show-notes/
Skepticrat Podcast
God Awful Movies Podcast http://godawfulmovies.libsyn.com/
Dogma Debate 24 hour Broadcastathon
Zachrilege Cast Episode 38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvXyr1c6gCI
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Thu, 26 November 2015
On this episode, we take a break from the killer amount of work to put the last episode together in order to have a discussion with listener Shawn Jolley. She's quick, knowledgeable, and armed with a DSM with a very useful section on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). Maybe we can learn something about Joseph Smith with a little bit of armchair psychological profiling of the prophet.
Show links:
Patreon: https://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Website: http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter: @NakedMormonism Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Outro music by Jason Comeau: http://aloststateofmind.com/ Links mentioned in the show: How to follow/get in touch with Shawn Jolley http://catchingupwithshawn.blogspot.com/ Email: Jolleycounseling@gmail.com Zachrilege Cast interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvXyr1c6gCI Imaginary Friends Show http://imaginaryfriendsshow.com/ Herd Mentality Podcast http://herdmentalitypodcast.com/
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Sun, 15 November 2015
On this episode, we attempt to deconstruct the Book of Mormon, just to see what it really is, and where it really came from. Turns out we only scratch the surface, even though the episode really is that long... You might want to digest it in smaller bytes.
Time Stamps: Introduction – 4:00 Historical Context – 7:00 Authorship – 41:00 David Michael Interview – 2:32:00 Content/Claims – 3:45:00 Rachel Nanon Brown Interview – 4:44:00 King James Bible plagiarisms – 5:50:00 John H. Gilbert (typesetter) affidavit – 6:12:30 Golden Plates today – 6:19:00 Conclusion 6:33:00 Elder Holland clip – 6:49:00
Show links
New GoFundMe page: https://www.gofundme.com/6months2books
Patreon: https://patreon.com/nakedmormonism
Website: http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
WordTree Foundation "How the Book of Mormon Destroyed Mormonism" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAGasQ7j_ZI
UTLM source books list http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/bomindianorigins.htm
Bown's research of 100 similarities between "Manuscript Found" and "Book of Mormon" http://solomonspalding.com/SRP/SCIOTA/SRPpap12.htm
Joseph Smith quotes "The View of the Hebrews" http://www.mormonhandbook.com/home/view-of-the-hebrews.html
The First Book of Napoleon https://ia801406.us.archive.org/26/items/firstbooknapole00gruagoog/firstbooknapole00gruagoog.pdf
The Late War of 1812 https://archive.org/details/latewarbetweenunusb00hunt
Fair Mormon chiasmus article http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon/Evidences/Hebraisms/Chiasmus
Book of Mormon anachronisms http://mybigquestions.info/My_Big_Questions/BOM_Anachronisms.html
Metallurgy in Pre-Columbian era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy_in_pre-Columbian_America
WordTree Foundation "How the Book of Mormon Destroyed Mormonism" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAGasQ7j_ZI
WordTree Study website plagiarism article http://askreality.com/hidden-in-plain-sight/
Lucy Mack Smith article about the Smith family in her memior http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no114.htm
Book of Mormon direct Bible plagiarisms http://www.mormonismdisproved.org/plagiarism.html
John H. Gilbert affidavit (Printer for the Book of Mormon) http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/JHGilbert.html
Cumorah's Cave by Cameron J. Packer (Direct Download)
WordTree Foundation "How the Book of Mormon Destroyed Mormonism" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAGasQ7j_ZI
Intro voices with their links:
James -Traders Edge Podcast: http://www.tradersedgenetwork.com/
Matthew the Apostle – In the name of God Podcast: http://nameofgod.podbean.com/
Paul - Quranify Me, & Atheist Apocalypse: http://www.atheistapocalypse.com/ https://www.youtube.com/user/quranifyme/videos
Heretic Woman - Atheists on Air, Beyond the Trailer Park, & Atheist Apocalypse: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6EPKl93_zMPY6tEI670nVg/videos
David Michael – My Book of Mormon: http://mybookofmormonpodcast.com/
Noah and Lucinda Lugeons – Scathing Atheist, Skepticrat, and God Awful Movies: http://scathingatheist.com/ http://skepticrat.libsyn.com/ http://godawfulmovies.libsyn.com/
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Thu, 29 October 2015
On this episode, we take care of a couple Patreon shout out stories. Thank you to Daniel, Judy, Clara, and Kelly for your support of the show.
How to find Daniel angryliberalatheists@hotmail.com Twitter @AngLibAtheist Facebook https://www.facebook.com/The-Angry-Liberal-Atheists-493588674005481/ Website http://angryliberalatheists.com/
Show links Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Fri, 16 October 2015
On this episode, we cover a lot of ground. We start out in late October 1830, and follow the missionary force from Fayette, New York, to Jackson County, Missouri. They make one meaningful stop along the way, and set in motion the mechanism to keep the church alive. Of course, Joe stayed plenty busy on his own in New York. He even makes a new friend, or connects with an old one, and everything gets thrown into high gear. The episode ends with trying to figure out some Mormon doctrine from the Pearl of Great Price. TLDR: God is a stupid dick, and Enoch was the best magician in the world.
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
Painsville Telegraph article: http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/BOMP/id/258
Pearl of Great Price, Book of Moses chapter 7 https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/moses/7?lang=eng
Amateur Skeptics Episode 136
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Fri, 2 October 2015
On this episode, we have a great discussion with Kaitlyn McKenna. She was recently kicked out of her home for not going to church, among other things. She could use some help with starting her life from scratch, and I would urge listeners to follow the link provided. Patreon subscribers get the extended edition of our conversation, and I would highly recommend it!
Links:
Kaitlyn McKenna's go fund me https://www.gofundme.com/justforessentials
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Thu, 24 September 2015
On this episode, we start out by looking at the actual events surrounding Hiram Page's revelation about the location of Zion. Joe has to rein everybody back in, and put out fires just to keep some semblance of control. We are introduced to our three newest characters in the timeline: Parley P. Pratt, Orson Pratt, and Ziba Peterson.
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
History of Mormonism "Ask a Mormon" http://historyofmormonism.com/contact/
Ziba Peterson http://historyofmormonism.com/2013/12/04/ziba-peterson/
Parley P. Pratt http://www.mormonmissionprep.com/conversion-stories/parley-p-pratt/
ZIBA PETERSON: FROM MISSIONARY TO HANGING SHERIFF. H. Dean Garrett. http://mormonhistoricsites.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/NJ9.1_Garrett.pdf
AoA Beyond the Trailer Park Episode 41 - Even More Mormon Maniahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuU14uc6PlUEvil Twin Podcasthttp://www.eviltwinpodcast.com
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Thu, 10 September 2015
On this episode, we take a break from the usual historical analysis in order to have a very enlightening discussion with Author David Fitzgerald. He's one of the leading Jesus mythicist authors with his book, "Nailed: Ten Christian Myths that Show Jesus Never Existed", and has catapulted himself into armchair Mormon historian status with, "The Complete Heretics Guide to Western Religion: Book 1 The Mormons". We start off discussing Jesus Mythicism, but move quickly into everything Mormon history. It's tough to express just how much fun this discussion was, and I look forward to many more in the future. Check out David's books by following the links, or googling David Fitzgerald.
Links:
David's Blog
http://davefitzgerald.blogspot.com/
Nailed
http://www.amazon.com/Nailed-Christian-Myths-Jesus-Existed/dp/0557709911
The Mormons
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Heretics-Guide-Western-Religion/dp/1482773341/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_y
Thank God I'm Atheist Episode 198
http://www.thankgodimatheist.com/podcast/naked-mormons-198/
Amateur Skeptics home page
http://www.amateurskeptics.com/
Trader's Edge Podcast with Preston
http://www.tradersedgenetwork.com/
Carls Pottery Website
Damien Lee Thor with band "Predator"
https://www.facebook.com/PompanoAmp/posts/1490797411217311?__mref=message_bubble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueAUIcDqsM
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
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Thu, 27 August 2015
On this episode, we talk about the people that Joe named to be his primary persecutors in Colesville, N.Y. Joe has to give a revelation to lift everybody's spirits, which results in the introduction of 'priestcraft', and the first real insurrection. Ollie opposes Joe, and Joe breaks his newly formed spine, like usual.
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
FairMormon on Joseph Smith persecution
http://blog.fairmormon.org/2008/03/27/the-bainbridge-conspiracy/
"The Mormons or Latter-Day Saints, in the Valley of the Great Salt Lake: A History of Their Rise and Progress, Peculiar Doctrines, Present Condition." (1854)
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Fri, 14 August 2015
On this episode, we dive right back into the history! We find ourselves attending the first two congregations of the church, and take a brief moment to introduce a pre-Danite wild-card that's been unfairly benched during our narrative up to this point. After that, Joe takes a trip to Colesville and has his second and third run-ins with the N. Y. legal system. Does Joe get convicted of being a “disorderly person”, or does he get off on a couple of bullshit technicalities? Listen to find out...
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
1830 trial notes
http://user.xmission.com/~research/early/court1830.htm
Salt Lake Tribune 'Seer Stone' article
http://www.sltrib.com/news/2802019-155/mormon-church-to-release-more-documents
Grant Palmer presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHsvZooc4Bc
Janice transition blog entry
http://choppedliverproductions.com/about/Mormon.html
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Thu, 30 July 2015
On this episode, we take a very critical look at some of the more famous talks given by the late Boyd K. Packer. Hopefully no listeners hold any preference to Packer, because we tear down every possible aspect of this homophobic, mysoginistic's bully pulpit preaching. It gets personal, so strap in, and get ready for some fucked up, disconnected-from-reality bullshit from this rotting corpse.
Links:
Talk to the All-Church Coordinating Council http://www.zionsbest.com/face.html#sthash.FcmORPAc.dpuf
Boyd K. Packer - The Mantle is Far, Far Greater than the Intellect (full speech)
To Young Men Only Oct 2, 1976 https://www.lds.org/manual/to-young-men-only/to-young-men-only?lang=eng
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Thu, 16 July 2015
On this episode, we talk about the interrum period from when Joe and Marty signed the contract with E.B. Grandin to publish the Book of Mormon, until the book is published in March 1830. A lot happens, and Joe starts to really gain a reputation for himself, with both dissenters, and supporters of his cause. Joe also gives some revelations about a quick $205,000 that prove to be laughably false.
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
Scathing Atheist Episode 126
http://scathingatheist.com/2015/07/16/episode-126-show-notes/
LDS.org "A Snug Log House"
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1985/08/a-snug-log-house?lang=eng
Solomon Chamberlain Autobiography
http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/SChamberlain.html
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Thu, 2 July 2015
On this episode, we take another break from the historical analysis to talk with listeners Preston and Melissa. We get to hear about their transition from returned missionary believer, to questioning, to lost in the real world after asking the hard questions about Mormonism. There's even a cameo from their daughter and she offers her unique perspective. I want to express my appreciation to their whole family for being so hospitable and nice to a stranger in their house with a microphone and laptop. It was a lot of fun talking with all of you, and learning so much.
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Thu, 2 July 2015
On this episode, we take another break from the historical analysis to talk with listener J T. She makes transitions from Catholicism, to fundamentalist converted Jew, and lots in between. She has a great story and I appreciate her contributing her voice, and talents to the show, and facebook page. Soul Breaker Demonista Julie is a great and interesting friend, thank you for spending two hours discussion religion and life with me!
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Fri, 19 June 2015
On this episode, we try to track down the origin of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods. Their origin is shrouded in mystery, and is reportedly of angellic origins. Did the priesthood come from John the Baptist, Peter, James, and John? Or did the Priesthoods evolve out of necessity for Joe's increasingly higher authority claim? Which conclusion makes more sense?
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
Priesthood lineage deconstruction:
https://books.google.com/books?id=fodGAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA203&lpg=PA203&dq=jethro+caleb+elihu+jeremy+gad&source=bl&ots=iVbFXweDe9&sig=lzleoFPQlsiK-gHrFr_3nhNY6y4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMIo8eUhOCPxgIV1BmSCh2dFgJZ#v=onepage&q=jethro%20caleb%20elihu%20jeremy%20gad&f=false
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Thu, 4 June 2015
On this episode, we focus strictly on the testimonies of the 3 witnesses, and the 8 witnesses. Should we take them at face value and consider them unimpeachable, or is it worth taking a closer look? The quotes seem pretty open and shut at first glance, but let's really dive in to see what lurks under the surface, and discover the naked truth.
Website nakedmormonismpodcast.com
Links:
John H. Gilbert recollections: http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/JHGilbert.html
Dan Vogel, witnesses of the plates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jNV6jN-VQ
History of the Church 1:54: https://byustudies.byu.edu/hc/hcpgs/hc.aspx
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, has been around for almost two centuries. It has ebbed and fluctuated in such a predictably adaptive manner throughout it's relatively short life in the religious realm. This Church has a very sordid past, which it does a very good job of teaching for itself, whether the history is slanted or not, is yours to decide. Join me on a journey through the history of the LDS Church through the eyes of the people that were actually there. We will learn about the founding members, where the practices came from, where the Book of Mormon (Mormon Bible) came from, and most importantly, we will examine Joseph Smith in every aspect possibly available to us today.
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